Combat Box by Red Flight - Late War Scenarios - NA/EU server
COMBAT BOX
Sortie: 16.04.2020 - 06:48 Dead
pilot: FeuerFliegen
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06:48:19
respawn
06:53:00
takeoff
07:01:49
damaged - 14.3%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:49
damaged - 30.9%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:49
damaged - 36.6%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:49
damaged - 4.7%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:49
damaged - 4.8%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:49
damaged - 4.2%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:01:50
damaged - 36.1%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:01:50
damaged - 63.9%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:01:50
DESTROYED
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:02:31
damaged - 21.2%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:02:31
damaged - 78.8%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:02:31
DESTROYED
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:02:58
damaged - 35.9%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:02:58
damaged - 7.5%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:02:58
damaged - 12.7%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:02:58
damaged - 43.9%
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:02:58
DESTROYED
AI
M1A1 90 mm Gun
07:03:39
damaged - 4.5%
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:03:39
DESTROYED
AI
72-К AAA gun
07:04:07
was damaged - 0.2%
AI
M2.50 AA machinegun
07:04:20
damaged - 26.8%
AI
M2.50 AA machinegun
07:04:21
damaged - 73.2%
AI
M2.50 AA machinegun
07:04:21
DESTROYED
AI
M2.50 AA machinegun
07:04:50
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 1.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 1.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 18.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 4.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 1.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 6.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:50
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 15.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 2.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 2.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 4.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 10.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 4.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 13.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 4.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 3.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 11.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 5.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:51
damaged - 1.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 11.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 7.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 18.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 42.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 3.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 6.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 2.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 3.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 1.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:52
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:53
damaged - 57.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:53
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:04:53
damaged - 49.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:04:53
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:05:20
damaged - 10.3%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.3%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.3%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.2%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.3%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.9%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:20
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.3%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.8%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 1.1%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 1.1%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.9%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.4%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.2%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.6%
dugout
07:05:21
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:22
damaged - 0.5%
dugout
07:05:51
damaged - 20.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:51
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 0.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 1.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 27.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 8.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 0.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
damaged - 38.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:05:52
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 6.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 11.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:19
damaged - 1.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 3.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 1.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 0.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 2.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 11.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:21
damaged - 6.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:22
damaged - 100.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:22
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:22
damaged - 72.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:22
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:51
damaged - 2.0%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:06:51
damaged - 23.0%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:06:51
damaged - 1.3%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:06:52
damaged - 73.7%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:06:52
DESTROYED
AI
static_WillysMB
07:06:53
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:53
damaged - 2.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:53
damaged - 34.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:53
damaged - 1.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:53
damaged - 4.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:54
damaged - 29.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:06:54
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:23
damaged - 4.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:23
damaged - 2.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:23
damaged - 0.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:24
damaged - 54.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:24
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 0.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 19.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 1.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:55
damaged - 3.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:56
damaged - 38.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:57
damaged - 56.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:07:57
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:27
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:27
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:27
damaged - 0.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:27
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:27
damaged - 19.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:28
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:28
damaged - 1.1%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:28
damaged - 0.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 1.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 3.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 2.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 0.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 0.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 3.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 2.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 0.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 0.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 2.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 1.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 1.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 6.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 1.8%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:29
damaged - 2.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:30
damaged - 31.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:08:30
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:05
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 4.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 24.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 3.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 14.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 9.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 19.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:05
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 51.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 4.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 7.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 4.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 30.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 4.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 1.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 28.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 3.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 8.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 1.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 2.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:06
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 2.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 4.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 2.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 4.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 14.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
damaged - 55.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:07
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:09:08
damaged - 74.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:09:08
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:09:30
damaged - 1.0%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:30
damaged - 0.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:30
damaged - 0.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:30
damaged - 1.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:30
damaged - 1.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:31
damaged - 0.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:31
damaged - 0.2%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:31
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:31
damaged - 0.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 23.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 0.4%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 2.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 1.9%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 39.3%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:32
damaged - 1.6%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:33
damaged - 54.5%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:09:33
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:10:07
damaged - 55.7%
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:10:07
DESTROYED
AI
static_GMC-CCKW
07:10:35
damaged - 2.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 17.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 2.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 1.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 1.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 4.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 14.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 17.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:35
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 1.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 0.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 4.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 1.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 5.0%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 8.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 0.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 3.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 3.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 0.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 1.9%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 5.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 5.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 0.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 3.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 74.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
damaged - 51.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:36
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:10:37
damaged - 50.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:10:37
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:10:58
damaged - 1.9%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:10:58
damaged - 1.6%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:10:58
damaged - 20.3%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:10:59
damaged - 69.6%
AI
static_WillysMB
07:10:59
DESTROYED
AI
static_WillysMB
07:11:27
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 0.2%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 0.5%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 5.1%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 13.7%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 1.8%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 2.6%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:27
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:28
damaged - 0.3%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:28
damaged - 42.4%
airfield ammo dump
07:11:28
DESTROYED
airfield ammo dump
07:11:30
damage - 0.1%
07:11:30
damage - 0.1%
07:11:30
damage - 2.3%
07:11:30
damage - 3.2%
07:11:30
damage - 5.5%
07:11:30
damage - 0.6%
07:11:30
damage - 0.1%
07:11:30
damage - 87.9%
07:11:30
wound - 15.5%
07:11:30
wound - 12.2%
07:11:31
wound - 72.3%
07:11:31
DIED
07:11:31
end
07:11:33
WAS SHOTDOWN
AI
M2.50 AA machinegun
07:11:33
crashed
* Ammo types are not attached to damage logs in the log files. "Ammo hit" logs are attached via processing to damage logs using an educated guess, so it may be incorrect.